Join industry veterans Chuck and Howie as they explore metrology, calibration, and proficiency testing like never before. Get expert insights, industry trends, and real talk on the challenges and innovations shaping the field—plus a little entertaining banter. Whether you’re a pro or just starting out, this podcast has something for you.
Episode 12 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie dives into a hot-button issue shaking up the calibration world: ethics and integrity. Joined by industry veteran Jeremy Sims, founder of NexusCal and longtime metrology professional, they explore where things go wrong, from pencil-whipped calibrations to inconsistent standards enforcement. Jeremy shares insights from decades of auditing labs, highlighting that integrity issues often stem from either willful neglect or simply not knowing what’s required. With real talk, sharp insights, and a touch of humor, this episode digs into the challenges and responsibilities facing calibration professionals today.
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Episode 11 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie features Ryan Egbert, President and founder of Sine Calibration and Sine Certified, talking about the critical need for hands-on training in the metrology field. From military roots to civilian solutions, Ryan shares how his program is helping bridge the gap, especially for transitioning veterans.
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Episode 10 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie features metrology veteran Dilip Shah, President at E=mc3 Solutions. With over 45 years of experience, Dilip shares how his fascination with measurements began at the age of seven and evolved into a career marked by industry-shaping contributions. The trio discusses Dilip’s impact on standards, training, and certifications, his philosophy on simplifying technical topics, and why he remains passionate about helping the community. It’s a mix of humor, history, and metrology insights you won’t want to miss.
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Episode 9 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie features Troy Thomas, President of Essco, about his unexpected journey into the metrology world—from answering a newspaper ad to leading a successful calibration company. They discuss the changing landscape of talent in the field, the importance of curiosity over credentials, and what makes someone truly excel in metrology. The conversation is full of insights on hiring, growth, training challenges, and even a bit of music talk as the group dreams about forming a calibration band at future conferences.
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Episode 8 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie features metrology legend Christopher Grachanen, whose decades-long career spans the U.S. Air Force, NASA, Compaq, and National Instruments. A pioneer in the field, Chris developed the original free Uncertainty Calculator and other widely used tools that transformed calibration labs around the world. He shares stories of innovation, leadership, and his role in launching NAPT, along with surprising passions like playing in bands and hunting for diamonds. Tune in for an inspiring blend of technical insight, industry history, and personal stories from one of metrology’s most influential figures.
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In this seventh episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, Chuck and Howie sit down with a true legend in the world of accreditation and proficiency testing, Peter Unger, co-founder and Executive Director of IQEIS and former President & CEO of A2LA. With decades of leadership spanning from NIST (formerly the National Bureau of Standards) to building one of the most respected accreditation bodies in the world, Peter shares the inside story of how A2LA got off the ground, the influence of General Motors, and the crucial role of proficiency testing in ensuring laboratory competence. Chuck and Howie reminisce about their early interactions with Peter, discuss the challenges of international PT programs, and explore the barriers Peter helped break through, particularly the misconception that accreditation must be government-led. From passionate anecdotes to historical context, this episode offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at the foundational years of laboratory accreditation in the U.S. Whether you're a metrology veteran or just starting in the lab world, this conversation is packed with wisdom, history, and inspiration from a true pioneer.
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In this sixth episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, we’re looking back at the people, places, and moments that made the first half of our podcast journey so memorable. From trade show floors filled with familiar faces to behind-the-scenes laughs about bourbon preferences and three-wheeled scooters, this episode captures the heart of the metrology community. You’ll hear highlights from recent conversations, lessons learned from the road, and a few personal stories that remind us why precision matters.
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In this fifth episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, we are joined by Jim Hewston, Director of Quality and Training at Cross Company and a proud NAPT board member. Jim shares his unique path into the field, starting with his days at NIST and rubbing elbows (and beards) with metrology legends. He brings a fresh perspective from the testing side of the industry and helps explain the key differences between captive and non-captive labs. But before we get technical, Chuck and Howie bond over their beloved (and beleaguered) Chiefs, classic TV like Gunsmoke and Johnny Carson, and the art of No-Shave November. Expect laughs, some serious industry insights, and a few beard-growing tips along the way.
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In this fourth episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie we are joined by Mitch Jones, Chief Sales Officer at IndySoft, who takes us on a journey from Navy intelligence officer to powerhouse in the metrology industry. Mitch opens up about his unconventional career path, the challenges and triumphs of diving into a new field, and the invaluable lessons he’s learned from industry experts. Plus, we throw in some friendly golf banter that you won’t want to miss!
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In this third episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, we’re joined by Kirk Foster, Metrology & Calibration Laboratory Manager at NASA. We dive into the complexities of risk management in metrology, exploring how to identify and mitigate operational risks. Kirk shares insights on ethics, precision, and continuous improvement in the field. Tune in for a fascinating conversation on the science behind accuracy and reliability.
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In the second episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, industry veterans Chuck and Howard interview Paul Resse, AbbVie.
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The first episode of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie, hosted by industry veterans Chuck and Howard, dives into their extensive careers in metrology, calibration, and proficiency testing. They discuss their backgrounds, experiences with industry conferences, and the evolving challenges in measurement science. With candid stories and expert insights, they set the stage for future episodes that will explore the intricacies of metrology and the role of NAPT in advancing industry standards.
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